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#15036·pytest

Make deselection reasons part of pytest_deselected, not a side channel

Author: RonnyPfannschmidtCreated Sep 16, 2026Updated Sep 16, 2026

AI-authored. I prompted this exploration; the agent (Claude Opus 5 via Claude Code) wrote the analysis and this text. I reviewed it and I am posting it.

Follow-up to #15035, which makes pytest record why it deselected an item and show it at -v.

The reason there is side-channeled: _pytest.deselect.deselect_items() stashes it on the config for the duration of the pytest_deselected call, and pytest's terminal reporter reads it back. It is private, so a plugin can neither record a reason for its own deselections nor read the reason for pytest's.

That is the whole point of this issue: the side channel should not become the API.

Why the hook cannot just grow the argument

pytest_deselected is unusual — plugins call it, not only implement it. Calling it from pytest_collection_modifyitems when you remove items is part of the documented contract. So reason would be a hookspec argument that:

  • no existing caller passes, so implementations can never rely on it;
  • can never become required, because requiring it breaks every plugin that supports more than one pytest version;
  • cannot be told apart, when absent, from "the caller had nothing to say".

pluggy has no way to fill in an argument on behalf of an old caller. This is pytest-dev/pluggy#170 ("Howto handle hook changes"), where this very hook is named as the motivating case, and pytest-dev/pluggy#361 proposes the mechanism that would resolve it: letting a hookspec take part in the call and normalize its arguments.

What would need to happen

  1. pluggy grows call control for hookspecs (pytest-dev/pluggy#361) or some other way to express "this argument is new; here is what old callers mean".
  2. pytest_deselected gains reason: str | None, with the spec supplying None for callers that do not pass it.
  3. _pytest/deselect.py becomes a thin shim, or goes away; the terminal reporter reads the hook argument instead of the stash.
  4. The placeholder pytest currently prints for plugin deselections (deselected by a plugin, no reason recorded) stops being the normal case.

Alternatives worth weighing before that

  • A new hook (pytest_items_deselected(items, reason)) alongside the old one, with the old one kept for compatibility. Runs into the "both implementations fire" problem from pytest-dev/pluggy#170 and needs a deprecation story anyway.
  • A deselection API on Session/Config that plugins call instead of the hook (session.deselect(items, reason=...)), with the hook fired internally. This was on the table in 2016; doing it properly means retiring pytest_collection_modifyitems as the place where selection is decided, which is a much bigger change — see the discussion in #13617.

Making the side channel public is not on that list on purpose: it would be a second, parallel way to pass an argument to a hook, and it would have to be kept alive regardless of what pluggy ends up offering.

Source: pytest-dev/pytest

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